Wednesday, June 01, 2005

Question Period – Stephen Harper Exposes Liberal Lies

The liberal party was facing a vote of non-confidence only two weeks ago. In the days leading up to that crucial vote, the liberals were at work bribing Conservative MPs with offers of senate seats, cabinet posts and diplomatic appointments. These acts of influence peddling are criminal in Canada. Yet, the whole time the liberals were trying to buy more time in power, they were also lying to Canadians by denying that these offers were being made.

The liberal friendly mainstream media took the side of the liberal party the whole time this was going on. When the liberals denied they were soliciting Conservatives, the left-wing journalists of this country demanded that Conservatives offer proof. Eventually, one lone Conservative named Gurmant Grewal decided to tape conversations he had with senior liberal party members who had begun to target him. The Gurmant Grewal tapes were released to the public yesterday and copies have been given to the RCMP to help them with their criminal investigation.

When Gurmant Grewal first notified the public that he had been offered a cabinet post, the liberal party, including the Prime Minister, denied that anyone had ever talked to Gurmant. When Gurmant said that he had been recorded his conversations with liberal party members, the Prime Minister changed his story and said that liberal party members were negotiating with Gurmant, but that Gurmant initiated the negotiations. Paul Martin added that at no time did he ever agree to meet with the Conservative MP.

However, the audio tapes clearly show that the chief of staff for Prime Minister Paul Martin said, “The Prime Minister is prepared to talk to you directly both by phone and in person.” During question period in the House of Commons Conservative Party Leader Stephen Harper asked the Prime Minister why he said he was unwilling to meet with the Conservative MP when clearly he was.

Paul Martin answered by repeating his previous lie, that Gurmant initiated discussions with the liberal party. The Prime Minister also said that he gave specific instructions to senior party members that no offer could be given to entice a defection and at no time was the Prime Minister prepared to meet with the Conservative MP. Then Paul Martin ended his answer by saying, “obviously anyone would meet with somebody that was interested in crossing the floor.”

Stephen Harper then said, “The Prime Minister is shifting his story, because now he admits he did authorize his senior people to engage in discussions. Now yesterday in the House, I repeat, the Prime Minister said this, ‘at no time did I ever say that I would meet with the Honorable Member, yet his Health Minister is on tape saying, I talked to the Prime Minister moments ago. He will be happy to talk to you over the phone or in person. Why did the Prime Minister not tell the truth in the House of Commons?”

Paul Martin again changed his story by saying that he would not be willing to meet with the Conservative MP unless he joined the liberal party with no preconditions or offers from the liberals.

Stephen Harper pointed out this new story when he said, “Well this is another story, because the Prime Minister said he would never meet with him. Now he says he would meet with him under certain conditions. When the government was courting the member for Dauphin – Swan River (Inky Mark), the president of the treasury board said, ‘Only the Prime Minister has the authority to make an offer. Is not the reason the Prime Minister wanted to meet the Member from Newton – North Delta (Gurmant Grewal) is so that he could make him an offer, just as he did in several other cases that we are aware of?”

Treasury Board President Reg Alcock replied by saying, “The Prime Minister gave his chief of staff one instruction, not to make any offers and that was the case. The Prime Minister has been very clear about this.”

So the question remains, if the Prime Minister was so clear about not offering any deals to Gurmant Grewal for him to cross the floor and join the liberal party, why do the tapes reveal that this is exactly what happened?

When Gurmant talked to Sudesh Kalia, discussions were made about a senate seat. The transcripts also talk about a diplomatic position in India. They talked about procedure involving a hand shake to seal the deal, with a delivery on promises one to two months in the future. When Gurmant talked to Ujjal Dosanjh, the liberal Health Minister, the conversation involved an offer of a cabinet position, which could be arranged right away. A cabinet position is what former Conservative MP Belinda Stronach was given when she joined the liberal party. Scott Bryson, another former Conservative also sits in the liberal cabinet. The Prime Minister’s Chief of Staff, Tim Murphy, is also on tape coaching Gurmant Grewal in what to say to the media in the event he was to join the liberals. “Am I being offered anything? You say ‘NO’,” is what Mr. Murphy said.

Oh what tangled web Paul Martin is weaving, by lying, lying about his lies and telling more lies in the hope it all go away.


At 6:50 p.m., Blogger ed_in_cda said...

Good article. I've posted a link. Thanks. (

At 9:39 p.m., Blogger Canadi-anna said...

Paul Martin knew nothing.
Paul Martin knew nothing.
Paul Martin knew there were discussions, but never said he'd meet anyone.
Paul Martin knew there were discussions, but never said he'd meet anyone unless there were certain conditions.
Paul Martin must be a series of clones who haven't had a chance to get together and get their stories straight.

At 12:44 a.m., Blogger Bob said...

This reminds me so much of Bill Clinton's parsing of what is 'is'.

The liberals made a 'deal to make a deal' so they could claim they didn't make a deal.

At 3:44 a.m., Anonymous Jema54 said...

Great Post, Blue Maple Leaf! You have made a very clear, just acessement of the whole sordid (on the Lib part) affair. Martin is the guy that cried "wolf" and now the unimaginable has happened to our flopping fop. He lied and denied and said Conservative M.P.s were making up stories. He played chicken with Mr. Harper and ended up with egg all over his face!!
Your article, in any Democratic country should have been the headline on every mainstream newspaper in the country. Keep blogging and the MSM will be screetching to an empty audience. People are already just watching and reading MSM to see them squirm. No one believes what they say.
Keep up the GOOD work.

At 6:27 a.m., Blogger Linda said...

This sorry saga is starting to sound like a movie-of-the-week:

Sex, Lies and Audiotape

At 3:04 p.m., Anonymous Dan Price said...

Liberal lies? What about Conservative ones?

At 7:18 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...


Explain why your lovable PM denied the "taped converstaions" in the first place.

The Libs are getting backed into a corner. The onus will be on them to prove allegations of 'tape splicing'. The (nameless) Ottawa radio people who claim to back the LIBS on this, are not forsenic investigators.

The Liberal pulse is getting weaker.

Taunt us more.

At 6:49 a.m., Blogger GL1800 said...

I want proof!!! :)

A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.

At 1:48 p.m., Blogger republicanuk said...


With the Grits scrambling to maintain power, does anyone ask what the NDP REALLY wanted? Was it just the budget? Or did the Grits agree to ram through the same-sex bill as a condition of their propping up of the gov't?

Note: even the SENATE is rumored to actually SHOW UP (not going back to Mexico or their prisons or wherever) and STAY LATE to vote on the bill before the end of the present session.

At 4:23 p.m., Anonymous Anonymous said...

In regards to the Grewal affair, the CBC is spinning the story in favour of the Liberals.

CBC News anchor Allison Smith led her portion of the news by saying, “Coming up…” and then stated that an “expert” hired by the CBC says the audio tapes may have been tampered with, and that there are serious inconsistencies in the material contained on the tapes.

Boy, is there any lengths that the CBC will not go to shill for the Liberals?

When it comes to the “hidden agenda” claim made by the Liberals against the Conservatives, the CBC, through it’s slanted coverage, hangs the accusations out as truth, putting the onus on the Conservatives to prove the claims false. But when it comes to the Grewal audio tapes (exposing that the Liberals use bribes), as well as the damaging testimonies heard at the Gomery commission, the Liberals are given the benefit of the doubt, with a suspcious eye turned towards the Conservatives and their motivation for bringing up such matters.

At 11:37 p.m., Blogger TonyGuitar said...

The recording tape fiasco has proven Paul and the libscams lied. Any more squabbeling is a tussel between Libs and CPC parties.

That tussel belongs in a Civil court of law where you pay the fees and the lawyers.

Stop this tug of war in the house of commons and take it to court where you can pay for it.

Your free ride in the house is over. Get back to the business of Canada in the commons now.

On second thought. The libs are hamstrung, unable to govern effectivly under the burden of bad faith, dishonesty and lack of public confidence.

Conditions where the Governor General is under oath to dissolve parliament and call an election.

Please, Govenor General Clarkson, do your sworn duty before any more damage and waste is done.

The note to Gov. Gen. Clarkson is at
73s TonyGuitar


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